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Majjhima Nikaaya I.
3.1 Kakacuupamasutta.m
(21) The Simile of the Saw.
I heard thus.
At one time the Blessed One lived in the monastery offered by Anaathapindika in
Jetas grove in Saavatthi. At that time venerable Moliyaphagguna spent much time
associating the bhikkhunis.This association was such that if any bhikkhu blamed the
bhikkhunis in the presence of venerable Moliyaphagguna, he was annoyed and spoke much in
favour of them and if any bhikkhu blamed venerable Moliyaphagguna in the presence of the
bhikkhunis, they were annoyed and spoke much in favour of him. Venerable Moliyaphagguna
and the bhikkhunis maintained such an association. Then a certain bhikkhu approached the
Blessed One, worshipped the Blessed One, sat on a side and said thus: Venerable sir,
venerable Moliyaphagguna spends much time associating the bhikkhunis. This association is
such that if any bhikkhu blamed the bhikkhunis in the presence of venerable
Moliyaphagguna, he gets annoyed and speaks much in favour of them. And if any bhikkhu
blamed venerable Moliyaphagguna in the presence of the bhikkhunis, they were annoyed and
spoke much in favour of him. Venerable Moliyaphagguna maintains such an association with
the bhikkhunis. Then the Blessed One addressed a certain bhikkhu Come here bhikkhu,
in my words, call bhikkhu Moliyaphagguna, tell the Teacher wants you He consented
and approached venerable Moliyaphagguna and said the Teacher calls you venerable Phagguna.
He said yes, venerable one and approached the Blessed One worshipped and sat on a side.
Then the Blessed One said thus:
Phagguna, is it true, that you spend much time with the bhikkhunis. Do you maintain
such an association with the bhikkhunis that when a bhikkhu blames the bhikkhunis in your
presence, you get annoyed and talk in favour of the bhikkhunis, and when a bhikkhu blames
you in the presence of the bhikkhnis, they get annoyed and talk in favour of you.
Phagguna, do you maintain such an association with the bhikkhunis-Yes, veneraable sir.-
Arent you the son of a clansman who has gone forth as a homeless out of faith-I am
venerable sir.-Phagguna, it is not suitable for the son of a clansman, who has gone forth
as a homeless to spend much time with the bhikkhunis- Therefore Phagguna, when anyone
blames the bhikkhunis in your presence, you should give up that worldly interest and
worldly thoughts. Phagguna, there you should train like this -My mind will not change, I
will not utter evil words, I will abide with compassion and loving kindness without an
angry thought. Again Pagguna, if anyone beat those bhikkhunis with their hands or with
clods, or sticks, or weapons, you should train as above. Again Phagguna, if anyone blames
you in the face, you should train as above. If anyone beats you with hands, or clods, or
sticks, or weapons, you should give up that worldly interest and worldly thoughts.
Phagguna, there you should train like this- My mind will not change, I will not utter evil
words, I will abide with compassion and loving kindness, without an angry thought.
Then the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus. O! Bhikkhus, at one time I convinced the
minds of the bhikkhus to partake of one meal a day, this is what I said: Bhikkhus, I
partake of one meal a day, partaking one meal a day I experienced few ailments, few
disorders, lightness, power, and a comfortable abiding. Bhikkhus, you too partake of one
meal a day and experience few ailments, few disorders, lightness, power and a comfortable
abiding. There wasnt a need to advice those bhikkhus, the mere arousing of
mindfulness was enough. Like a cart with thoroughbreds yoked, stationed on the four cross
roads in some even land. Then a clever tamer of horses, a charioteer comes and mounting
the cart takes the reins in the left hand and the whip in the right hand proceeds and
receeds as he likes and where he likes. Even so there wasnt a need to advice those
bhikkhus,only arousing mindfulness was necessary. Therefore bhikkhus, dispel demerit and
pursuse merit. In that manner, you come to growth and development in this dispensation of
the Teaching Like a Sal grove near a village or hamlet would have an under growth of
weeds. Then a certain man desiring their welfare uproots all the weeds which rob the
moisture and throws them out and the Sal trees grow straight, and well . Thus in the mean
time the Sal trees grow and develop well. Bhikkhus, in the same manner, dispel demerit and
pursue merit.So you too grow and develop in this dispensation
At one time in this same Saavatthi there was a householers wife named Vedehikaa
and there was such praise given to her, Vedehikaa is gentle, humble and calm. This
householders wife had a slave named Kaali. She was clever, not lazy, and well
arranged in her work.It occured to Kaali, my mistress is praised as gentle, humble and
calm, What, is my mistress really calm that she does not show the anger within, or is she
not calm. Or is it because I am well arranged in my work that my mistress does not show
her anger, or is she not calm What if I examined my mistress. So the slave Kaali got up
late in the day. The householders wife Vedehikaa called out, Hey Kaali! Why do you
get up late. For no reason Lady. Evil one why do you get up late, without a reason, saying
this she was angry and showed displeasure. Then to the slave Kaali it occured thus: Does
my mistress have anger within, which she does not show or hasnt she. Is it because
am well arranged in my work that my mistress does not show anger and not that she
hasnt. What if I examine her further. Then the slave Kaali got up still more
late.Then the householders wife Vedehikaa called out: Hey Kaali! Why do you get up
late. For no reason lady. Evil one, why do you get up late, without a reason, saying this
she was angry, showed displeasure and uttered distasteful words. Then it occured to the
slave Kaali, me lady indeed has anger within which she does not put out, it is not
she hasnt. It is because am well arranged in my work, that she does not show her
anger and it is not that she hasnt anger. What if I examine my mistress further. So
she got up still more late. Then the householders wife Vedehikaa called out, Hey
Kaali! Why do you get up late. For no reason lady. Evil one, why do you get up late for no
reason, saying this she showed anger, took a rolling pin and hit Kaali on her head. Then
Kaali with her head split, blood oozing and dripping called out to the neighbours: Ladies
look at the gentle ones work, look at the humble ones work, look at the calm
ones work How could she hit the head, and split the head of her only slave, for
getting up late. Then, the householders wife Vedehikas ill fame spread.
Vedehika the householders wife is rough, not humble and not calm. Bhikkhus, in the
same manner a certain bhikkhu would be gentle, humble and calm until he is touched by
disagreeable words. It is when touched by disagreeable words that it should be known
whether the bhikkhu is gentle, humble and calm. Bhikkhus, in the same manner a bhikkhu may
become calm with the gain of robes, morsel food, dwellings and requisites when ill, not
gaining robes, morsel food, dwellings and requissites when ill, he would not be calm any
more.
The bhikkhu who becomes calm honouring the Teaching and according to the Teaching, is
calm and suave.
Therefore you should train, we honouring the Teaching, and living according to the
Teaching, will be calm and suave.
Bhikkhus, others speaking would speak in this fivefold way. At the right time, or not
at the right time, The false or the truth. With kindness or roughly. For the good of
someone, or for his disaster. With thoughts of loving kindness, or with anger. Then you
should train thus: Our minds will not change, we will not utter evil words, We will abide
compassionate with thoughts of loving kindness not angry. We will pervade that person who
uttered those words, with thoughts of loving kindness. With that same thought of loving
kindness grown great and measureless, without enmity we will abide pervading everywhere.
Bhikkhus, thus you should train. .
Like a man who comes with hoe and basket saying, I will make this great earth go
without earth . Then he would dig here and there, throw earth here and there, spit here
and there, urinate here and there and would say, be without earth. Yet would he be able to
make this great earth without earth. This great earth is deep and immearsurable and it
would not be possible to make this great earth go without earth, it will only bring
fatigue to that man. In the same manner fivefold is the ways of speech. It would be at the
right time or not at the right time. The false or the truth. With kindness or roughly. For
the good of someone or for his disaster. With thoughts of loving kindness or with anger.
Then you should train thus. Our minds will not change, we will not utter evil words. We
will abide compassionate with thoughts of loving kindness not angry. We will pervade that
person who uttered those words with thoughts of loving kindness. With that same sign,
grown great and developed extensively as much as the world I pervade and abide. Bhikkhus,
you should train thus.
Like a man who comes with various colours of dye, red, yellow, blue and orange saying I
will draw pictures in space.I will make them appear in space.Yet would he be able to draw
pictures in space, to make them appear . In immaterial space, he cannot draw pictures and
make them appear, it is not easy, it will bring him only fatigue In the same manner
fivefold is the ways of speech. It would be at the right time or not at the right time.
The false or the truth. With kindness or roughly. For the good of someone or for his
disaster. With thoughts of loving kindness or with anger. Then you should train thus. Our
minds will not change, we will not utter evil words. We will abide compassionate with
thoughts of loving kindness not angry. We will pervade that person who uttered those words
with thoughts of loving kindness. With that same sign, grown great and developed
extensively as much as space I pervade and abide. Bhikkhus, you should train thus.
Like a man who comes with a burning grass torch saying I will heat, scorch and dry up
river Ganges. Yet would he be able to heat, scorch and dry up river Ganges. As immense as
the waters of river Ganges it is not posssible to heat, scorch and dry her up, it will
cause that man only fatigue. In the same manner fivefold is the ways of speech. It would
be at the right time or not at the right time. The false or the truth. With kindness or
roughly. For the good of someone or for his disaster. With thoughts of loving kindness or
with anger. Then you should train thus. Our minds will not change, we will not utter evil
words. We will abide compassionate with thoughts of loving kindness not angry. We will
pervade that person who uttered those words with thoughts of loving kindness. With that
same sign, grown great and developed extensively as much as the water of Ganges, I pervade
and abide. Bhikkhus, you should train thus.
Like a man who comes with a catskin bag threshed, polished and tested for
soundlessness, saying I will make a sound with this catskin bag with a stick or stone. Yet
would he be able to make a sound with the catskin bag with a stick or stone. That catskin
bag is threshed, polished and tested for soundlessness, it would not be possible to make a
sound with it, he will only gain fatigue on account of it. In the same manner fivefold is
the ways of speech. It would be at the right time or not at the right time. The false or
the truth. With kindness or roughly. For the good of someone or for his disaster. With
thoughts of loving kindness or with anger. Then you should train thus. Our minds will not
change, we will not utter evil words. We will abide compassionate with thoughts of loving
kindness not angry. We will pervade that person who uttered those words with thoughts of
loving kindness. With that same sign, grown great and developed extensively as much as the
catskin bag , I pervade and abide. Bhikkhus, you should train thus.
O! Bhikkhus, even if robbers cut your limbs one after another with a two handled saw,
if your mind be defiled on account of that, you have not done the duty in my dispensation
Then too you should train thus. Our minds will not change, we will not utter evil words.
We will abide compassionate with thoughts of loving kindness not angry. We will pervade
that person with thoughts of loving kindness. With that same sign, grown great and
developed extensively, I pervade and abide. Bhikkhus, you should train thus.
Bhikkhus, you should constantly attend to the advice on the simile of the saw. Is there
anything small or large in those words of others which you would not endure. Therefore
bhikkhus, constantly attend to the advice on the simile of the saw, it will be for your
welfare and happiness for a long time.
The Blessed One said thus and those bhikkhus delighted in the words of the Blessed One.
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